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Info-Mac Digest             Wed, 21 Jul 93       Volume 11 : Issue 147

Today's Topics:

      [*] Voodoo1.4 - Version control tool
      (Q) Eudora and PowerBook Modem...
      (R) SCSI device termination - how to check for it with a multi-meter
      (R) Uploading Info-Mac to AOL
      advice re: A/UX vs. NFS/Share & MacX & MacTCP
      America Online InfoMac uploads
      Apple-Link (Q)
      Centris 650 - When to buy?
      Decompressor of VAX/VMS zip files for Mac (Q)
      Error 29? (Q)
      Free memory?? What gives?? (2 msgs)
      Getting around the 255-character limit in HC
      Hypercard Font Problem
      IIsi problem--any ideas?
      info-mac CD II OnLocation Index
      Info-Mac Digest V11 #145 (2 msgs)
      Info-Mac Digest V11 #146
      Keyboard bugs etc....
      Key quirks--Round 2
      Laser Printer Costings
      MacOS Bugs and workarounds
      Miscellany
      MisconFIGured NEWTON
      No need for SCSI cable gripe!
      Personal AppleShare crapped out - Why?
      Persuasion vertical slide format
      Portable Stylewriter
      Random Number Generator
      Re De-screening software
      Returned mail- Service unav
      StuffIt! Expander 3.02 (C)
      Supra modem's "Silent Answer"...
      System can't be installed & a whimsical floppy drive (R)
      teaching old Macs new tricks: Plus and Sys6 (Q)
      Viruses...a summation(?)
      WORD 5.1/IICI PROBLEMS

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Date: Wed, 21 Jul 93 08:29:56 +0100
From: Christoph Reichenberger <[e-mail]>
Subject: [*] Voodoo1.4 - Version control tool

This mail is to inform you that the version control tool
Voodoo is now available. Voodoo is the successor of
Revisionist and is (IMHO) the first real
version control tool for the macintosh. A lite version
of Voodoo will be distributed on a shareware basis.
The package included contains Voodoo 1.4 together with a
readme document and a manual.

Voodoo allows both variant and revision control, and it
manages not only variants and revisions of single files, but
of a whole software project (multi files, multi users,
multi variants, access rights, ...).

The tool offers a neat graphical user interface and is not only
suitable for mere source code control but can handle all
different kinds of files with amazing compression rates
(typical size of delta between arbitrary files 5% -
no matter whether the files are plain text or any other
documents - e. g. MSWord, WriteNow, Canvas, ...).
Contrary, if you try to manage non-text-files with Projector
or SCCS you will not get any space reduction.

Voodoo differs from previous source code control systems in its
orthogonal approach to version management. This means that for
every component of a project hierarchy you can not only store
its revision history but also different variants of the same
component. For a more detailed explanation I'd like to refer
you to the paper on orthogonal version management, which is
included with the application in the Voodoo package.

Christoph Reichenberger
           Christoph Reichenberger   Tel.:     [phone]
       Johannes Kepler University Linz   Fax:      [phone]
     Institute of Computer Science
           Software Department   Internet: [e-mail]
            Altenbergerstr. 69
          A-4040 Linz, Austria

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Date: Wed, 21 Jul 93 13:19:52 -0700
From: [e-mail] (jeff schindall)
Subject: (Q) Eudora and PowerBook Modem...

Hi,

Has anyone out there been able to get Eudora to work on a powerbook using
the internal modem?

I seem to have problems making the connection.  Eudora dials out,
but never makes a connection. Why is this?

My desktop fax/modem and eudora works fine on my SE, but not the powerbook.

thanks for any help...




                -jeff schindall

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Date: Wed, 21 Jul 93 15:03:24 GMT
From: [e-mail]
Subject: (R) SCSI device termination - how to check for it with a multi-meter

From:   WYMAN@PSI%ESFM01@MRGATE@SNMRTR
To:     "[e-mail]"@M_INTERNET@MRGATE@SNMRTR@SNMRTR

>
>Date: Fri, 16 Jul 93 8:03:51 EDT
>From: "Mr. Troy Kelley" <[e-mail]>
>Subject: Termination on Mac Drives
>
>Is there any software that will tell me whether or not a Macintosh drive
>has a terminator in it or not? Or do I have to take the drive apart in
>order to tell.
>
>Thanks
>Troy Kelley
>
1. There is a control panel by Robert Polic called SCSIProbe
( now at version 3.5) which does a pretty good job of identifying
SCSI devices and whether the bus is terminated correctly.  Look for
it on SUMEX.  I recommend booting off a copy of the Disk Tools disk to
which SCSIProbe has been added.  You may have to delete Disk First Aid
to make enough space (remember, I said "a COPY".......).

2. Even without connecting the device and without opening it, a simple test
with a cheap multi-meter (or an expensive one, if that's all you have!)
will reveal whether your device is internally terminated:

With the device power off, measure between pins 26 & 50 of the 50-contact
SCSI connector, "the narrow side" of the D-shaped ribbon-contact connector.
The measured value for an un-terminated SCSI device will be 10,000 ohms
or more, effectively an open circuit.

A device with standard passive resistor packs installed will measure
about 260 ohms plus or minus 15 ohms.  A doubly-terminated device
(internal resistor packs + external terminator on the other connector)
will measure about 130 ohms (half of the normal value).  Of course, in
this latter case you MUST remove one of the terminators to be correctly
configured.  I make a practise of checking ALL in-coming SCSI hardware
and removing the internal SCSI packs if found.  Other posters have
exhaustively explained the correct configuration for a SCSI bus. I won't
repeat that discussion here.

       25                                               1
    ________________________________________________________
   (    o o o o o o o o o o o o o o o o o o o o o o o o o    )
    \ ---------------------------------------------------   /
     \ --------------------------------------------------  /
      \ o o o o o o o o o o o o o o o o o o o o o o o o o /
       --------------------------------------------------
       50                                               26

    ^                                               ^
    |__________________ 260 ohms ___________________|

Note that you can use the procedure to examine a chain of SCSI devices
for correct termination:  Disconnect the System SCSI cable at the first
device and make the measurement.  You should only "see" one terminator
in the chain, at the far end.  If you then remove it from the last
device, you should see an open or nearly-open circuit as above.

I use the same procedure for checking SCSI device chains on SUN and
VAX workstations.

Doug.Wyman
Schlumberger - GeoQuest
Montrouge, France

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Date: Wed, 21 Jul 93 08:43:38 EDT
From: Larry Wink <[e-mail]>
Subject: (R) Uploading Info-Mac to AOL

In Info-Mac v11 #146 "Wade Williams" <[e-mail]>
writes:

> As a forum assistant in the Macintosh Development Forum on America Online,
> I can assure everyone that the info-mac digests are sorely missed and we
> would love to have someone continue the good work of Paul Bain who used to
> volunteer his time, but has since lost his Internet connection.

(other fairy tales deleted to save bandwidth)

Since I'm a new subscriber to AOL (but a long time reader of Info-Mac), I
thought it would be a nice idea to help out here.  This past Monday
I uploaded Info-Mac v11 #144 to the Macintosh Development Forum.  On
Tuesday, I was informed that the upload was NOT ACCEPTABLE for AOL.

Why?

I had inadvertently violated the rules of the AOL Thought Police - you
see Compact-Pro (obviously a perverted piece of shareware) is NOT an
acceptable format for AOL.  Only the Great God Stuffit(tm) shall be allowed
in the AOL Sacred Archive.  Now I've got nothing against Leonard Rosenthal,
Raymond Lau, or even Aladdin Systems, and I keep a copy of Stuffit Expander
(tm) and UnStuffit(tm) around to handle archive stored in those formats,
but I use Compact-Pro for MY archives.  Since I have no desire to shell
out additional $$ for either the shareware or commercial version of
Stuffit(tm), I will give someone else the honor of uploading to AOL.

Actually, this is just one more reason why my stay at AOL with probably be
very temporary.

--Larry Wink <[e-mail] or (for the moment) [e-mail]>

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Date: Wed, 21 Jul 93 11:29:35 EDT
From: [e-mail] (Eric W. Davies)
Subject: advice re: A/UX vs. NFS/Share & MacX & MacTCP

I'd appreciate hearing any advice any of you have to offer regarding the
benefits of installing A/UX versus those of installing specialized
Unix connectivity products on top of the Mac OS.  Right now, we only
have the need for an NFS client and X-Window server for the Mac, but it
seems like once you start purchasing those products separately, you've
spent almost as much as you would have on A/UX.  I'm sure A/UX must be
a lot more tedious to install and configure, but are there any performance
advantages?  We'd be running it on a IIfx (not sure how much RAM or disk
space -- I don't yet have access to the machine).  Does the A/UX installation
require reformatting of the drive?  Can you keep a Mac OS partition?
Generally speaking, how bad are the compatibility problems when trying
to run off-the-shelf Mac software under A/UX?  If you prefer, send responses
to me and I'll summarize for the net.  Thanks a lot.

Eric Davies
[e-mail]

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Date: Tue, 20 Jul 93 22:56:34 EDT
From: [e-mail]
Subject: America Online InfoMac uploads

Fellow Info-mac maniacs!

In I-M #11-144 my message requesting volunteers to upload the info-mac digest
onto America OnLine appeared.

Well, my AOL mailbox was filled! Thanks to all who generously replied to
offer their services. The uploads are already beginning. I can imagine it'll
take some stamina to continue through blistering heat and driving snow to
upload these digests day-in, day-out.

Special thanks to Adam Engst (I know you're reading this!) who suggested the
direct approach to this problem.

Let the good times (& info) roll!  And <Hi!> to other friends reading this.

Jim Bethin
[e-mail]

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Date: 21 Jul 1993 08:51:29 +0100 (MET)
From: [e-mail]
Subject: Apple-Link (Q)

How to send mail from the internet to a person that only has an Apple Link
address? (i.e. my local apple dealer).

Thx.
Jens Eickhoff

([e-mail])

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Date: Tue, 20 Jul 93 23:00:16 CDT
From: [e-mail] (David Fiel)
Subject: Centris 650 - When to buy?

Dear mac lovers,

I'm going to buy a Centris 650 in the near future.  My question is:
With the Cyclones coming out in August (When exactly?), will the price
of a 650 come down soon?  If so, when and how much?  I realize that
these are impossible questions, so guesstimates are appreciated.
Thanks.  CUL8R

David Fiel  *  [e-mail]

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Date: Tue, 20 Jul 1993 23:53 EST
From: DON'T PANIC <[e-mail]>
Subject: Decompressor of VAX/VMS zip files for Mac (Q)

Dear Netters,
Is there a decompressor as described above?  As I receive so much e-mail it
should be easy to read a zipped up e-mail package after downloading it to my
Macintosh  and unzipping it.  As it is my VAX/VMS account has limited space (1
MB) whereas on my Mac I can use the whole hard drive if I wanted to.  Any good
packages around.

 I have tried Unzip 2.01, and StuffIt Expander 3.0.1
with no success.  IF at all possible is there a freeware/shareware package
around that will unstuff VAX/VMS files on a Mac LC System 7.0 (vanilla version
7), and where on internet can I find it? Thank you.

Sincerely,
[e-mail]

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Date: 21 Jul 1993 10:08:05 -0600 (MDT)
From: [e-mail]
Subject: Error 29? (Q)

A user on campus has an LCIII (Sys 7.1) and is using the HyperCard Player for
the address book. If he leaves the player running, sometime later he gets a
dialog something like:

    "The application 'HyperCard Player' has unexpectedly quit.
    Error 29"

I can't find error 29 in any of my references. Can someone provide an answer?
(I realize knowing the definition may not actually help; but I'm curious.)

Thanks!


(My opinions; no one cares to share the blame.)

Ken Powell ([e-mail])
Information Systems
Macintosh System Support

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Date: Wed, 21 Jul 93 11:24:21 EDT
From: "Jerry Wolf" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Free memory?? What gives??

Yes, I also have noticed a similar problem ever since I got my IIsi (9
MB, 7.0.1 tuned, no math coprocessor).  Sometimes it'll get into a state
where there's multi-megs of memory in the "largest unused block", and
the system complains about not enough memory to open an application, or
sometimes just to open a new window.  I haven't tried quitting ALL
applications; normally I just restart.  Sorry, but I haven't been able
to find anything out it either, but you're not alone!

cheers,
  jerry

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Date: Wed, 21 Jul 93 15:16:29 PST
From: [e-mail] (Salient Software)
Subject: Free memory?? What gives??

In article <[e-mail]>
([e-mail]), you write:
    Date: Mon, 19 Jul 1993 08:12:49 -0400
    From: PHILLIP MICHAEL WILLIAMS <[e-mail]>

    Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.digest
    Path: pmw0
    From: [e-mail] (PHILLIP MICHAEL WILLIAMS)
    Subject: Free memory?? What gives??
    Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
    Date: Mon, 19 Jul 1993 12:12:47 GMT
    Organization: Lehigh University
    Lines: 22

    I have noticed this problem for quite some time.  In the past I
    contributed
    the problem to software installed with my ethernet card, since the
    software
    has been removed and the problem still persists I don't know what to do.
    Here's the problem:

    Sometimes when I quit an application the system does not know that the
    memory
    is available.  For example, I'll run MS Word and Igor together.  I only
    have 5
    meg of RAM so if I want to run something else I have to quit one of the
    open
    apps.  Let's say that I quit Igor.  When I go to open the new app I get
    the
    not enough memory error message.  If I go to About This Macintosh... I see
    that the system and MS Word are open.  The total memory used is a litlle
    under
    4 meg, so I should have 1+ meg left.  However, my mac is telling me that
    there
    is zero k free.  If I quit Word all the memory is once again available.

    Has anyone else had this problem.  I don't think it's a virus.  I use
    gatekeeper and the latest Disenfectent.

    System:  Mac IIsi, 5 MB Ram, 7.0 tuned, Math co-processor.

    Any help would be appreciated.  Thanks in advance.

    Phil Williams

For example:

Here you have all your apps running with no memory available.

High Memory ------------------------------
        |                            |  Programs are loaded from
Igor--------+          1.0MB             |  High Memory downwards.
        |                            |
         ----------------------------
        |                            |
        |                            |
Word--------+          2.5MB             |
        |                            |
        |                            |
         ----------------------------
        |                            |
System------+          1.5MB             |
        |                            |
Low Memory  ------------------------------

Here you quit Igor.

High Memory ------------------------------
        |                            |
Free--------+          1.0MB             |
        |                            |
         ----------------------------
        |                            |
        |                            |
Word--------+          2.5MB             |
        |                            |
        |                            |
         ---------------------------- <----- No place to load
        |                            |       another program
System------+          1.5MB             |       so Finder says 0K
        |                            |       free.
Low Memory  ------------------------------

Suggestion:

Load your programs according to usage.  If you are going to use Word
all the time and quit Igor then load Word first and then Igor.  If
you load them this way when you quit Igor the memory will look like
the following.

High Memory ------------------------------
        |                            |
        |                            |
Word--------+          2.5MB             |
        |                            |
        |                            |
         ---------------------------- <----- Finder will see 1.0MB
        |                            |       free and load another
Free--------+          1.0MB             |       program.
        |                            |
         ----------------------------
        |                            |
System------+          1.5MB             |
        |                            |
Low Memory  ------------------------------

Harri Rehnberg
Fifth Generation Systems
Salient Division Product Testing
124 University Ave, Suite 300
Palo Alto CA  94301-1637
[phone] x109
[phone] fax

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Date: Tue, 20 Jul 1993 21:11:30 -0500
From: alfred!vicstoy!n1mnb.oau.org![e-mail] (Brad Ackerman)
Subject: Getting around the 255-character limit in HC

I want to make a stack I am building to activate Macintalk using an XCMD.
However, I need the stack to pass a 300-character string to the XCMD.  What
can I do?  I've tried splitting it up into multiple calls, but HC pauses
for an incredible amount of time between calls.  What can I do???  Please
exclude recompiling HyperCard, as I don't have a source license and I don't
know enough assembly (can't understand EIEIO :) to force Hypercard into
accepting long strings.  Also, I don't have the disk space at present to
load Think C to write a new XCMD.

Brad S. Ackerman    ARS N1MNB/AA           Also [e-mail]
[e-mail]  Longwood, Florida USA  [[[[[[[GO LEAP!]]]]]]]

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Date: Wed, 21 Jul 93 13:03:12 -0700
From: Bruce Carter <[e-mail]>
Subject: Hypercard Font Problem

Greetings,

>A special thanks to Conrad who provide a very detailed description of a
>solution that worked wonderfully. Essentially it amounts to installing the
>old fonts directly into the stack by using the Font-DA mover and holding
>down the option key to open the stack. Worked like a charm. This adds to
>the size of the stack, but minimally!

This solution works (for the most part) but is greatly frowned upon by Apple
DTS.  It can cause problems, including fouling up background printing of stack
material and heap fragmentation.
                     <->
Bruce Carter, CBI Product Development                [e-mail]
Simplot/Micron Instructional Technology Center       amccarte@idbsu (Bitnet)
Boise State University, Boise, ID  83725             [phone]@phone

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Date: Wed, 21 Jul 93 09:15:59 CDT
From: [e-mail]
Subject: IIsi problem--any ideas?

Here's the set-up: IIsi, 17mgs RAM, system 7.0. A number of extensions,
none that have been added within the last few weeks.

Yesterday I opened Excel (the app itself, not an existing document) on
this machine. Then I tried to quit out of it, and it took something like
3-4 minutes to quit. In an effort to repeat this behavior I tried to open
it again, and this time it would not open. The application icon had
turned into a generic app icon--the little diamond with the pen in it.
Looking about, I noticed that some other app icons--but not all of them--
had also metamorphosed. I thought that I would run Disinfectant, but it
refused to open. I then tried Norton Disk Doctor, which ran through
five of its six checks, finding no significant problems, but froze
right before the sixth step. I had to turn the machine off to get out
of it. When it rebooted, almost all icons in sight had become generic,
including apps, extensions, documents, etc. I rebooted the machine again,
rebuilding the desktop. A couple of interesting sidelights--I had just
noticed that the 40MG HD showed 5k (yes, five kay) of available
space. After the reboot/rebuild, it showed 27MG. Turned out that
virtual memory had been running on the machine for a few weeks (it's
not my machine and I wasn't aware of it). Turned vm off, rebooted
again, rebuilt desktop again. Rebooted with extensions off. Nothing
helped. The other interesting thing is, though in the extensions
folder the extensions all show up as blank puzzle pieces, they still
exhibited the proper icon when marching across the screen on start-up.

Now everything on the machine is a generic icon, including the system
suitcase, which now shows up as a blank document. The machine still
boots up successfully, however. Obviously we're going to have to do
some reinstalling, but I would really like to know *what happened*.
Does anyone have any clues? Any similar experiences? MTIA (MANY thanks
in advance).
             Grasping at straws,
                         Pat

Pat Ullmann  [e-mail] or PULLMANN@TRINITY (BITNET)

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Date: Wed, 21 Jul 93 10:46:15 -0700
From: [e-mail] (Joseph Skudlarek)
Subject: info-mac CD II OnLocation Index

Is there any reasonable shareware/freeware for using the OnLocation
index that is included on info-mac CD II?  The index itself is about
7.3MB, and is reputed to have both filenames and text within files
indexed, which should make searching much easier.

OnLocation itself costs about $129 retail, and about $75 from
MacConnection or MacWarehouse.  That's really more than I want to
spend for something I only expect to use very occasionally, and with
low priority.

I don't know much about easy-view, but I wonder if the OnLocation
index can be massaged into something that easy-view can use
effectively.

I will post a summary of the e-mail I receive.  Thanks.  /Jskud
 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------
Joseph Skudlarek  Mentor Graphics  8005 SW Boeckman Rd  Wilsonville OR 97070
[phone] (work)
{[e-mail],[e-mail]}

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Date: Wed, 21 Jul 93 09:42:06 LCL
From: larch-l keeper <[e-mail]>
Subject: Info-Mac Digest V11 #145

According to the May 1993 Compatibility Chart from Apple, "The Macintosh
II and IIx require special 4 or 16MB SIMMs.  Specify your Macintosh
model when ordering.  The Machintosh II requires the Macintosh II FDHD Upgrade
to use 4MB SIMMS" (which includes some new ROMs).  Also, "The Macintosh II
will not start up with 4 or 16MB SIMMs in bank A.  Only 1MB or 256K SIMMs
can be installed in bank A.  4 or 16MB SIMMs can be installed in bank B."
So, the maximum with 4 * 1MB SIMMs in bank A and 4 * 4MB SIMMs in bank B
is 20MBs.  The system will apparently accomodate 68MBs if 4 * 16MB SIMMs are
put in bank B.

The short answer is, Yws you need the new ROMs that come with the FDHD
Upgrade!

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Date: Wed, 21 Jul 1993 09:40:40 -0800
From: [e-mail] (Jamie Lawrence)
Subject: Info-Mac Digest V11 #145

>> Has anyone else experienced these problems? [with Stuffit Expander3.0.2]
>
>yes I have and more: on my IIcx running System 7.1 (and No Inits)
>drap and dropping a Stuffit SITD/SIT! file sometimes (!)
>starts Stuffit Expander 3.0.2 but nothing else happends.
>Drag and dropping a secont time usually solves the problem.
>I also recerted to 3.0.1
>
>Jean-Francois Sygnet <[e-mail]>
>
On my machine (iisi- too many inits to name, 7.0.1-tuned), I have found
that the 3.0.2 expander works fine with stuffit archives (don't know about
older  1.5.1 files- don't have any of those anymore), but if I drag a
compact pro archive onto it, it starts up, but seems to miss the apple
event to open the compact pro archive.  Thought I'd throw this out.
jamie
[e-mail]

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Date: Thu, 22 Jul 1993 06:13:28 +1000
From: [e-mail] (Colin McLaughlin)
Subject: Info-Mac Digest V11 #146

At  5:56pm 20/7/93 -0700, The Moderators wrote:
>Date: 20 Jul 1993 06:14:36 -0500
>From: [e-mail] (Kent Reuber)
>Subject: Apple's Higher Ed Gopher Server is on INFO.HED.APPLE.COM port 70
>
>I recently posted an article on Apple's July 12th price reduction that I
>got from the Apple Higher Education gopher server. I've gotten a number of
>responses asking me where this is, so I've decided to post it here. I
>realize that this isn't the best group, but this is where the discussion
>started. The server is:
>
>info.hed.apple.com   port 70
>
>Kent Reuber, Computational Specialist
>Biology Department, Brandeis University
>[e-mail]

Whats the trickin getting on to info.hed.apple.com.

I have had no success in connecting via TurboGopher or Fetch but I can
usually get on OK to ftp.apple.com via TurboGopher even if not by Fetch

Colin McLaughlin    [e-mail] 137.154.97.11
University of Western Sydney  OZ

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Date: Wed, 21 Jul 1993 01:27 EST
From: DON'T PANIC <[e-mail]>
Subject: Keyboard bugs etc....

Dear Netters,
On the subject of stuck keys, I wonder, how many of these keyboards are
cleaned for dust regularly!  This is usually the problem that leads to stuck
keys.
To repair:
1. turn off your Mac
2. find a screwdriver that will fit the screw  on the bottom side of the
keyboard or portable.
3. Open the keyboard top off
(don't touch the inside circuitry with one's oily hands any connections).
(allow no liquids to be nearby)
(find a static free surface)
4. Find Q-tips, paper clips, or a brush used to clean electric razors.  Any of
these items are small enough to reach between keys.
5. NO CLEANING SOLVENTS should ever be used for this delicate task.
6. gently run your cleaning tool (mentioned in step 4) between each key, and
take your time.  If at all possible put the keyboard at eye level and look
down the canyons underneath the keys, with the other end of the canyons
pointed at a light source.  Check for dust this way while cleaning.  The whole
process takes easily
 2 hours, but it can easily refresh your keyboard for a month's more of work.
----
The other possibility is that your program may have a keyboard buffer that has
overflowed.  About the only thing that I can recommend is to type slower in
this instance.  BTW PrintMonitor will slow down the response time to typing
when on (for all the people asking about why spooling on the Stylewriter
series appears to be slow).

Keyboards are as important as mice, and as a person who moved from IBM to Mac
they still are quite important.  For those people who do clean regularly and
still have stuck keys, I highly recommend contacting the manufacturer of your
keyboard for a replacement.

Disclaimer: Paper clips are not recommended unless you are certain that you
can avoid scratching the keyboard bottom and contacts of the keys with the
bottom.  If the above advice is followed carefully, your problems should
decrease.  But I make no guarantees.

Sincerely,
[e-mail]

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Date: Wed, 21 Jul 1993 10:11:58 -0600
From: "Earl Misanchuk"  <[e-mail]>
Subject: Key quirks--Round 2

Recently, a number of submissions have discussed the problem of repeating o's
when typing. I have had something different happen quite often (on an extended
keyboard): when I type (or at least intend to type) the combination 'th', I
get
an 'm' instead. For example, when I try to type 'the', I get 'me' instead. It
only happens when I'm typing quickly, of course, and I'm never able to catch
myself. I don't THINK I could be typing an 'm' instead of a 'th', but I'm not
prepared to swear to it. I haven't found any other key combination that I
mis-type anywhere nearly as consistently, but perhaps that's more due to the
frequency with which 'th' appears as a combination in English than anything
else.

Has anyone else experienced a similar phenomenon?

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Date: Wed, 21 Jul 1993 23:34:44 +0100 (BST)
From: "Drew Radtke" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Laser Printer Costings

Recently I read, in one or other newsgroup or this list, details
of the costs associated with keeping laser printers swtiched on
all day. Unfortunately I can't quite remember where this was;
does anyone have a copy of this message or can point me to it.

Many thanks...

Drew Radtke - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -

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Date: Wed, 21 Jul 1993 04:06:35 GMT
From: [e-mail] (Ivan M CaveroBelaunde)
Subject: MacOS Bugs and workarounds

I recently ran into two Toolbox bugs that are potentially deadly. I thought
some people would appreciate hearing about them so they can avoid pulling
their hair like I did.

The first one is QuickDraw offscreens bug. It tends to show up as a hang
inside _ITabMatch in the ROM while writing to or creating a GWorld; it
seems to be relatively unpredictable. After a bit of digging in the ROM
I found the following:
 - When NewGWorld is asked to allocate a clut-based GWorld, it scans all
    GDevices in the deviceList (independently of whether the noNewDevice
    flag is set or not). If it finds a device whose inverse table
    matches the desired clut, it uses that instead of creating its own.
 - When direct devices are allocated by the system, they get 2-byte long
    zero-filled handles as inverse tables. Now what seems to happen
    is that by sheer coincidence it can happen that the two bytes
    following the block used by the dummy itable are something
    relatively dangerous: if they contained, for example 0x0008,
    a careless onlooker (like NewGWorld) would look at the dummy inverse
    table and conclude that it is an inverse table for a color table
    with seed 8, ie a system clut. Then NewGWorld turns around and
    attempts to use what it thinks is an valid matching inverse table,
    and depending on what happens to be following our dummy itable
    in memory, it could hang or corrupt your offscreen image.
 - The workaround seems to be to scan all installed devices and if any of
    them have dummy 2 byte-long itables expand them to 4-byte long
    itables and fill it with zero so it won't match anything.

The second one could be considered not a bug, but an OS limitation.
Nonetheless, it's a pretty nasty one. It seems the Control Manager code
that actually dispatches calls to control definition function is not
reentrant. That is, it dispatches by calling HLock on the CDEF, jsr'ing
to it, and then calling HUnlock. This means a CDEF cannot from within
make any calls which could result in another call to the same CDEF since
the CDEF handle would get unlocked on the way out from the inner call,
with potentially dire results.  In fact, this even implies not being able
to manipulate OTHER controls if they happen to share the same CDEF, and it
also means CDEF actionProcs and the like need to be pretty anal about who
they call and when.

The way I was thinking of working around this one (Skanky Hack Alert) was
to patch HUnLock, NewControl, GetNewControl, and DisposHandle. The NewControl
and GetNewControl patches would notify the HUnlock patch of new CDEF handles
being loaded, the HUnlock patch would cross-check any handle passed to it
with the CDEF handles that it had received from Get/NewControl, and the
DisposHandle patch would notify the HUnlock patch if a handle in the
CDEF list got disposed of. Now, this ain't pretty, but it seems to me
it would work.  The question is, has anyone dealt with this problem before,
and what workaround did you use? I would rather avoid SkankyHacks(tm), but
unless a mo' better solution comes its way, I think this will have to be it.

Ideas, comments, etc., are welcome.


-Ivanski
---
Ivan Cavero Belaunde([e-mail])
Visualist
DiVA/Avid, Inc.

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Date: Wed, 21 Jul 93 18:43:20 EDT
From: "Allan M. Bloom" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Miscellany

Over the past couple days I've gleaned some tidbits of wisdom(?) that
some of y'all might find useful:

1. Apple ProDOS Extension: I've successfully used the extension to read
   ProDOS 800K floppies. This evening my wife asked me to copy some
   pictures (originally Macintosh saved from DeBabelizer in Apple II
   single hi-res 8-color format) to a ProDOS 5.25" disk. Are we talking
   archaic or what? I dragged the files to a ProDOS 3.5" disk. And died.

   My venerable Apple ///, whose 5.25" and 3.5" drives have the same
   format as Apple ProDOS, refused to copy the files from the 3.5" disk.
   I disabled the ProDOS extension and used AFE's "default" translation
   to copy the DeBabelized files to a 3.5" ProDOS disk. That worked.

   No, I don't know why the ProDOS Extension yielded junk. Yes, it is
   depressing that the execrable Apple File Exchange worked.

2. DC Buildings & Monuments: Last week I asked about pictures for a
   project Leslye is working on re the US government. Peter Jorgensen
   pointed me to an archive at the University of North Carolina with
   some nice photos from the Smithsonian Institution. When I checked
   with the Smithsonian's Jim Wallace about copyright, he noted that
   they now have their own anonymous ftp site (photo1.si.edu) with
   lots more pictures than the UNC site. Jim is right. Lots more stuff
   and some really gorgeous snapshots in images/gif. The JFIF and JPEG
   directories aren't as well fleshed out. It is apparently a work in
   progress. It is a definite purr to snoop through that site.

3. 1984: One of the demo machines at our university bookstore has the
   QuickTime movie of the original "1984" Macintosh commercial. With
   the manager's permission, I copied it this morning -- onto 10 HD
   floppies. I don't normally care for QuickTime. It is a tad resource
   intensive. But this is a classic. If you can find a copy, I recommend
   it highly. Granted, I'm easily impressed. But Leslye, the graphics
   phreaque, just went "Duhhh!" as she watched it, and I believe a tear
   came to her eye. It is a great selling point for multimedia.

4. 32-bit Extension: Remember how I allowed the other day that I finally
   got the 32-bit extension working on my DayStar-goosed IIcx? And that
   I wasn't wild about having to disable a valued SAM check to get 32b
   past SAM's startup checks? I wrote too soon. The next re-boot crapped
   out. I had to shift-boot and disable 32b before I could do a normal
   boot. Back to Mode32.

   I got a note today recalling a MacWeek article saying that only 32b
   worked reliably on an SE/30. OK, I can accept that. My note of the
   other day simply objected to the blanket condemnation of Connectix's
   excellent Mode32. Sometimes Mode32 is the only solution.

Al Bloom, Virginia Tech

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Date: Wed, 21 Jul 93 11:53:02 -0400
From: [e-mail] (Dave Hirsh)
Subject: MisconFIGured NEWTON

Does anyone out there plan on actually buying a Newton ?? After reading the
article on it in MacWeek (7/19) I find myself trying to think up ANY realistic
use for it (besides an expensive paper weight). As a novelty item it ranks
up there with the best but for real business uses I'm at a loss as to what its
real advantage is over a Franklin Planner or DayTimers organizer. It costs
over 10 times as much, has a small writing/drawing area and needs batteries.
The modem option seems pretty useless. You can't log on to a dialup service
(no keyboard) and would you really want to send a fax that looked like you
used a crayon to create it ? If anyone out there has more insight into the
Newton could you please share it with us ? I have a strong feeling the Newton
will turn out to be little more than a very expensive 'Game Boy'.

Flame Away...........

Dave Hirsh
Cincinnati,OH

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Date: 21 Jul 1993 10:05:00 -0600 (MDT)
From: RITCHIE <[e-mail]>
Subject: No need for SCSI cable gripe!

[e-mail] (Ken  Linger ) wrote:
>...
> Isn't the purpose of SCSI to be daisy chainable?  Why then isn't the Mac to
> SCSI cable the same as a SCSI to SCSI cable or why don't you have the option
> of getting a new hard drive, CD ROM, SyQuest, etc. with either cable?

   I have ordered SCSI devices from a variety of vendors, and they all seem
   willing to substitute daisy chain for system cables if I _ask_ . I don't
   know if catalog outfits are so accomodating, but they ought to be, since
   most of them sell SCSI cable separately. Anyway, try asking - if they do
   it, you're in fat city, and if they don't, add $40-60 to the price they're
   quoting (the usual cost of a new cable) and see if it's still the place
   you want to do business!

> And,why can't I find any of my numerous Mac to SCSI cables that I'm
> complaining about?

   Try looking in the doghouse - near the frisbee, covered with toothmarks.

  And while I'm at it, how about an unsolicited plug for APS, who sold me
  a couple of SyQuest drives and gave me killer pricing on additional (small)
  quantities of daisy chain cables.

Ritchie Boyd       University of Wyoming - Center for Teaching Excellence
Internet: [e-mail]

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Date: 21 Jul 1993 10:17:38 -0600 (MDT)
From: RITCHIE <[e-mail]>
Subject: Personal AppleShare crapped out - Why?

I've seen some posting that seem related to this problem, but none of the
proposed solutions worked, so here goes:

I'm running s7.0.1 on four Mac's. I just yesterday tried to mount one of the
Mac's shared volumes on another Mac (both IIci's), and I got thru all the
usual steps in the chooser, but as soon as I hit the OK button to actually
mount it, the dialog box disappeared, the chooser window contents which were
hidden didn't update, and the machine was essentially dead, but the mouse
still moved. Force quit displayed a dialog that wouldn't force quit, so I
had to restart.

I tried accessing the suspect machine from the other machines, and they
mount its' shared volumes fine. So I can go in, but not out. It doesn't seem
to
matter whether I leave the terminating resistor in or out of the phonenet
connector, either.

What gives? No new inits or whatnot since the last time it worked properly
(as far as I can tell - who knows who screws with the machines when I'm not
looking). Any ideas?

Ritchie Boyd       University of Wyoming - Center for Teaching Excellence
Internet: [e-mail]

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Date: 21 Jul 1993 22:53:59 GMT
From: Ross Wylde-Browne <[e-mail]>
Subject: Persuasion vertical slide format

>Date: Tue, 20 Jul 1993 20:51:45 -0400 (EDT)
>From: [e-mail]
>Subject: Vertical Persuassion ?
>
>Is it possible to use a vertical slide format in
>Aldus Persuassion ?  I can't find it in the manual.

Just select "Tall" in your slide master.  Refer pages 206 & 213


Research School of Earth Sciences
The Australian National University

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Date: Tue, 20 Jul 1993 03:31:40 -0800
From: [e-mail] (Lance K. Chun)
Subject: Portable Stylewriter

Anyone have one yet? If so, what is your conclusion. Please direct response
to private e-mail.

Thanks,
Lance

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Date: 21 Jul 1993 14:09:32 U
From: "Rue Ramirez" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Random Number Generator

I am looking for stand-alone Mac software/shareware/freeware that generates
random numbers.  Said software would preferably allow you to set the number of
digits, number range, and save the generated numbers to a file.  So far I've
received a Wordperfect macro (useless to me) and a notice about Number Fart
(very rudimentary) in the Info-Mac files.  Any information would be
appreciated.

Thank you in advance!

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Date: 22 Jul 1993 01:38:06 GMT
From: Ross Wylde-Browne <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re De-screening software

Some time ago I posted a message regarding de-screening software - I only
managed to get letters from readers on the net asking me to let them know
if I found a solution, and the only hint was from Tom Lane who wrote:

>I haven't heard of any solutions much more effective than the ones you
>mention.  I do know of several people who routinely rescale the
>image after scanning, downsizing by a factor of 0.9 or so; this
>seems to help eliminate the moire patterns with not too much loss
>of detail.
>
>If you find a better answer, *please* pass it on!
>
>                        regards, tom lane
>                        organizer, Independent JPEG Group

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Date: 21 Jul 1993 08:09:10 -0800
From: "Mike Egan" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Returned mail- Service unav

Mail*Link(r) SMTP               Returned mail: Service unav

   I'm an up-and-coming computer engineer (software)
 approaching my senior year of college (after
 summer), and I'm about to invest in my first real
 computer.  I had an AMIGA up 'till now, which
 wouldn't be so bad if it were less than 8 years
 old and I was in Europe somewhere.
   I've been looking at Mac's and PC's and asking
 anyone and everyone about their capabilities and
 things like what's EISA and VEISA, or why does DOS
 have 3 kinds of ram?  I also made a few
 observations such as everyone I know at school and
 home owns a PC, but at work and at all my family's
 jobs they're either using Mac's now or they're in
 the process of switching over to Mac's from PC's,
 why?
   I was wondering if anyone out there could help me
 with info on stuff like:
       -Is it worth waiting for
      the PowerPC or will it cost to much anyway when it
      comes out.
       -Which will better support the extensive use of
      languages like ADA,Pascal,C++,Lisp,etc.
       -Anything you might want to add...

 Thanks much,

 -Mike Egan   O O
           L
           U


     [e-mail]
     [e-mail]

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Date: Wed, 21 Jul 1993 15:00:27 GMT
From: [e-mail] (Olof Backing)
Subject: StuffIt! Expander 3.02 (C)

In digest <[e-mail]>
[e-mail] writes:

>[e-mail] writes:
>> Has anyone else experienced these problems? [with Stuffit Expander3.0.2]

>yes I have and more: on my IIcx running System 7.1 (and No Inits)
>drap and dropping a Stuffit SITD/SIT! file sometimes (!)
>starts Stuffit Expander 3.0.2 but nothing else happends.
>Drag and dropping a secont time usually solves the problem.
>I also recerted to 3.0.1

As seen by, at least me, and written by the author of StuffIt
Expander, a new release is on the upcoming. No date is set, but the
author is back from vacation and is in the middle of findind and
fixing the bug.
--
WHOAMI: Olof Backing                                 EMAIL:
WHERE:  Royal Institute Of Technology, Stockholm     [e-mail]
SNAIL:  Professorsslingan 25/102, S-104 05 Stockholm, Sweden
VOICE:  + 46 8 166318

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Date: Tue, 20 Jul 1993 20:23:59 -0500 (CDT)
From: Larry Rymal <[e-mail]>
Subject: Supra modem's "Silent Answer"...

Folks,

    Has anyone found any FAX software for the Mac that supports
Supra's "Silent Answer" option?  If you don't even know what I'm referring
to, it is Supra's attempt at allowing one to use an answering machine and
the FAX modem on the same phone line.
    Comments would greatly be appreciated.

--Larry Rymal <[e-mail]>

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Date: Wed, 21 Jul 1993 13:01:32 -0400 (EDT)
From: [e-mail] (Eric Burger)
Subject: System can't be installed & a whimsical floppy drive (R)

Forwarded message from Richard Smith:
>
> >1) I recently reformated my external HD from Frog Systems (a Rodime
> mechanism)
> >   with SilverLining 5.4.2. Then I tried to install System 7.1 onto it. I
> >   kept getting message as such "There is a problem with the disk. No
> >   installation can take place (error # 2231)." No luck even after
> >    re-initializations. What's wrong with the HD?
>
> 1: - I've had this problem with Rodime drives - I think it's to do with the
> non-Apple driver that's installed, or an incompatibility with the drives'
> ROM.
> The only answer I've found is to use another brand hard drive and use the
> Rodimes as non-boot drives.

The issue is that with System 7 (& 7.1)'s Virtual Memory, it's possible
for asynchronous, unrelated SCSI requests to occur.  Thus the driver
must be reentrant, which the System 6 and before is not.

I'd try FWB's Hard Drive Toolkit.  It supports most drives; ask your
favorite vendor if yours is covered.

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Date: Wed, 21 Jul 93 12:25:45 -0400
From: [e-mail]
Subject: teaching old Macs new tricks: Plus and Sys6 (Q)

Howdy pardners!

A professor here has a Mac Plus (2.5M RAM) with an external Apple HardDisk
20SC
that he wanted to upgrade from its original System (no version on Get Info) to
System 6.0.8. During the first attempt to install the new system, 'bad things'
happened. The installer bombed halfway through, and later we discovered disk
problems with Disk First Aid. This produced sad mac boots with various
numbers,
the last of which were in hex (he didn't write them down). Not trusting such
an
old hard disk, I attached it to our Quadra 800 and initialized it with Apple
HD
SC Setup, first with the latest version (7.1.1), then with the System 6.0.8
version (I was afraid of compatibility problems with 7.1.1). The driver was
updated automatically in both cases. Since the installer wouldn't let the
Quadra
install System 6.0.8 on the 20SC, I had to bring it over to a Mac II (I didn't
use the Plus itself because we didn't have a SCSI terminator at the time, and
the only Mac that wouldn't work w/o the terminator was the Plus). Installation
was successful, as proven by the Mac II booting from the external HD. End of
story...NOT!

With the proper SCSI termination, the Plus was able to boot from the HD. Now
the
problem is this: when trying to open the HD icon, the Plus reports an 'address
error' of some sort. I wanted to try to initialize the HD with the software
that
came with it, but (of course) the disks are no where to be found. Any ideas as
to why this setup won't work? Will the Plus only work with an earlier version
of
6.0.x? Is there a ROM upgrade necessary?

TIA for your help!

/\/\/\_ Eric Van Buren
\ \ \   Immunology & Microbiology
 \_^_/  Wayne State University

Please respond via internet to: [e-mail]

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Date: Wed, 21 Jul 93 00:59:19 CDT
From: [e-mail]
Subject: Viruses...a summation(?)

    First off...thanks to ALL people who replied to my 'plea' for help.
Got over 30 replies, and I apologize for not responding to all of you. The
most common suggestion was
to read the online help in Disinfectant 3.2( done! ). 9 people mentioned this(
sheepish grin ). As
to how to detect/suspect a virus/infection, here goes...

    1. Differences in normal system activity( this still goes along with
     developing a 6th sense I guess ).
    2. System slowdown.
    3. Disappearing disk space.
    4. Frequent system crashes.
    5. Programs beeping at startup time( when they had not previously
    done so ).
    6. Files losing their icons.
    7. Unexplained disk activity.

    It seems as if Gatekeeper should be used when a new user becomes more
    familar with the Mac, since 'biz
zare' or arcane programs might tend to set it off. Installing the Disinfectant
init/extension is recco
mended( by the replies I got :) ).
One thing I hadn't thought of was putting a copy of Disnfectant on a bootable
floppy!
    The general impression I got is that viruses in the Mac world aren't
    all that common. With a wee bit of
common sense, they should be no trouble( more than a few people mentioned this
).
    Thanks to *all* replies.

    Thomas

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Date: Wed, 21 Jul 93 11:46:10 -0700
From: Claude Errera <[e-mail]>
Subject: WORD 5.1/IICI PROBLEMS

In IM Digest 11-146, Brandon Munday notices serious crashing problems
with Word 5.1a. I just had the same sort of problem on a Powerbook 100,
and restarting without inits, reinstalling, etc. had little effect. Things
worked fine for months, then suddenly broke. Turns out it was a bad prefs
file. For some reason, this didn't get replaced on a fresh install. So,
Brandon, try trashing your Word prefs file (and the toolbar prefs for good
measure, unless you've done some complicated customizing you don't want to
lose), and test it again. (No promises, of course, but it's the next step.)

Hope this helps,

Claude
[e-mail]

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Date: Wed, 21 Jul 93 13:09:31 -0400
From: USENET News System <[e-mail]>

Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.digest
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From: [e-mail] (Terry Kuny)
Subject: fax drivers/software
Organization: University of Western Ontario
Date: Wed, 21 Jul 1993 17:09:26 GMT
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I was given a hand-me-down fax modem that a friend used with his PC. Alas, I
have no software to drive the fax modem... actually, I haven't a clue how to
even START using the fax feature!

Does anyone know of any shareware that might put this beast to work? and
maybe even some hints as to HOW it works. I presume that what is needed is a
fax driver and/or something else.

many thanks!  :-)

terry kuny
graduate school of library and information science
university of western ontario
[e-mail]

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